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Subj: Your Border Collie Website
Date: 1/19/2008 10:02:29 PM Central Standard Time
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I just wanted to let you know that I LOVE your website and all the hell you're giving the witches and hens in the ABCA!
It wasn't until I had the unfortunate experience of adopting a severely emaciated and un-vetted dog from Rebecca S. that I
began to uncover the lies and deceptions these people are capable of. Dear sweet Eileen S. banned me from their message
boards for things I said somewhere else on the Internet. I guess now she's crowned herself Policewoman of the Internet!
Good for you for speaking out against them, keep up the good work!
*****We are keeping a detailed log of all of the bogus e-mail requests and phone calls. We are aware
of Eileen Stein's tag system.****
Did you know that Patty Rogers has told reinstated member that he could not associate with non ABCA members??
Cherokee Rose Border Collies
Were you expelled???
Below are some examples of expulsion.
Adam and Eve were expelled from paradise.
Three-Year-Old Was Expelled for Spelling 'GOD'.
When
Ryan was diagnosed with HIV, the Kokomo, Indiana school board expelled him from school because they felt he was a health risk
to other students.
A college student was expelled Thursday by his university for writing he is gay on his MySpace.com
profile .
Bushmen were expelled from Homeland.
Atheist student was expelled for questioning classmate's
belief ...I think it's just because they were discussing this girls "religion" in school and that's not allowed...but seriously,
EXPELLED?
Teen Was Expelled From School For Turning In Found GunA 13-year-old Plainfield boy, and his parents are
stunned and outraged after the teen found a gun in school and turned it in to authorities.
Members of the ABCA were expelled without a reason.
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Apes of Wrath - or AOW'S as they are sometimes called - are a group of primates that supposedly show up to
harass or intimidate breeders.
They usually make vague or sometimes specific threats to stop breeders from registering
their dogs. They confiscate any physical proof of registration such as certificates, litter registrations.
They appear to be monkeys, gorillas, chimpanzees, or apes.
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Some Clubs that we were NOT suspended from:
Kappa Delta Sorority
President of Pledge Class
Belle Corps
Georgia Association of Educators
North Carolina
Association of Educators
NTE
Secretary of High School Student Body
Secretary of High School Student
Council
Beta Club
Outstanding Seniors
American Kennel Club
American International Border Collie Association
North American Sheepdog Society
Willow Point Homeowners' Association
University of Georgia Cheerleading Squad
National Honor Society
High School Varsity Cheerleading Squad, Captain
Jr. Varsity Cheerleading Squad
Drama Club
Parent Teacher Association Sarah Smith, Owen Middle School, North Buncombe Middle School, Austin Elementary School, Mineral
Springs Elementary School, Dunwoody Elementary School, Westside High School, Nancy Creek Elementary School, Brunson Elementary
School, Paisley Middle School, TC Roberson High School
Future Teachers of America
Ga State Teacher's Scholarship
Rich's Teen Board
Sears College Board
Forest Grove Baptist Church
Wieuca Road Baptist Church
Roxboro Homeowner's Association
*****All of those folks hurt by the ABCA have registered their dogs and pups elsewhere*****
Is it legal to sign someone else's name? Sure it is as long as you have Power of Attorney!! Read about written and verbal
agreements by clicking here!!
If you are registering with the ABCA, you need to check your pedigrees very carefully when you receive them. They
are often filled with mistakes!!!
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How far will the ABCA go on its rampage? Click here to find out!!
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There is another breeder in Tennessee named Cindy whose papers are now on hold for apparently no reason whatsoever. The ABCA still has her
paperwork and money. Her papers have been on hold since October 2006,
and it is now April 2007.
Did you know that Leona sent out registration papers to a breeder in Virginia without ever having received the paperwork
for that dog because "she likes this breeder?"
Do you know this same breeder with less than 2 years breeding experience is collecting all of the colors as pets??
Then she breeds them at the age of one year old? These dogs came from suspended breeders or their dogs, and now she
is e-mailing other people telling them she would never ever buy a dog from a suspended breeder. At the same time, she
is running an ad in the Washington Post for her CKC puppies from these dogs. Apparently, she doesn't want the
ABCA to know!!
A Border Collie breeder we know in Tennessee was put on HOLD in June 2006, without being notified of any problems or
even told that they put him on hold. The ABCA went to his farm (did not get there until fall of 2006) and DNA'd all
his dogs that he wanted ABCA pups from. All of his dogs passed the DNA testing, no problems; he answered all of their
questions. He was told by the ABCA office he had NO complaints at all against him.
Well, now it is almost April 2007, and the ABCA refuses to give him his papers and refuses to tell him WHY.
He has been with them since their beginning and is a very honest man. The ABCA kept their mouths shut and allowed him
to sell ABCA pups for months without telling him he was on hold, even when he called and asked about his papers. They
always said they were just busy, that's all. Now the ABCA is telling complete strangers on the phone details of
why he is on hold, but won't tell the breeder himself. Very unprofessional!!!
There is a breeder in Georgia selling ABCA papers without the dogs!! He can get you any set of papers you want.
Be careful of what you may become and where you may end up after becoming a member of the ABCA.
One breeder was sent the wrong number of males and females in his litter. The breeder found the mistake, not the
ABCA!
This is one of the pages of the American Border Collie Association's Newsletter commending themselves on the spreading
of libelous rumours they are mailing out about people. Feel free to download it.
We just discovered that the American Border Collie Association issued more papers than the 4 males and 4 females of one
of our blue litters. Six males and 5 females were registered by the ABCA. Be sure to check to see if
the right number of pedigrees were issued on your litters.
When Eileen Stein contacted us, she said that it was questionable that I had a sister. Well, Eileen,
I have two sisters, and here the three of us are:
Susan, Mary Ann, and Linda
This picture is especially for you, Eileen.
When people call the ABCA, you would be surprised at the unprofessionalism of the people who answer
the phone. They talk about members to people that they don't even know. Those people e-mail or call us
about what has been said. IT IS AMAZING. The latest is that the people that answer the phone don't
work for the ABCA, but they work for Patty Rogers so they can say anything that they want about anyone. This is
for you, Leona.
Click here to read the by laws of the ABCA. Quite a few people do not even have access to a computer, and they are not informed
of all of the changes being made.
Facts About the ABCA
Did you know that one ABCA Board of Director is also president of the USBCHA and moderator of the Border Collie
Boards?
Did you know that the Border Collie Boards is quite often a place to bash breeders?
Did you know that Patty Rogers makes $3.75 out of every $8.00 Registration Fee?
Did you know that the American Border Collie Association is actually a trust which operates much like
a homeowner's association? They are able to change the rules at will. Also, they are subject to Anti Trust laws.
Did you know that at least one ABCA Board of Director is a member os the BCSA, the AKC parent club?
Did you know that one ABCA Board of Director sent out pictures from a kennel investigation? Did you
know that violates the Privacy Act of 1074 and the Fourth Amendment?
Did you know that the ABCA investigators want to know where dogs are when in fact they have never required
any member to keep records?
Did you know that the closing of the AIBC was discussed on the Border Collie Boards, and the moderator
said it just faded away when, in fact, all ot the records of the AIBC were damaged in a huge hurricane?
Did you know that the ABC was founded by Peg Brown because people were dissatisfied with the AIBC? This
was not many years ago.
Did you know that in America you have a right to free enterprise and that there are no laws prohibiting suspended
members from the ABCA from selling ABCA dogs?
Did you know that if an organization is collecting data about you that you have a right to see it according
to the Privacy Act of 1974?
Did you know that in America, you have right to know what you are being accused of, and if you do not
know that you do not have to cooperate?
Did you know that the American Border Collie Association actually has another location in Delaware?
This is a state that corporations love to be based in because their laws for corporations are so lax.
Did you know that when we contacted Patty Rogers to see who owned one of our dogs that she said she was
just too busy to locate that information??
The American Border Collie Association posted the results of previous elections of the Directors.
They did not give out that information this time, and quite a few members are wondering why.
The Australian Shepherd Registry did the exact same kind of investigations right before the AKC closed their
books on the Australian Shepherds. Now, it cost $150 to register a dog with the National Stockdog Registry. This
is because they lost their larger breeders to the investigations, and numerous others flocked to the AKC.
Did you know that two dogs ran in the nationals that were from the same female? Their birthdates were two months
apart. How can this be?
Did you know that a man who had purchased a female dog and had not transferred her into his name BEFORE she had
puppies was recently told by Patty Rogers to just backdate the transfer?
Did you know that the ABCA is advising non members who have not received their papers to return the dogs to breeders
for their money back? In one particular case the breeder sold the pups as pets and required hip and eye certifications
before papers were to be issued.
Did you know that one USBCHA director was aware of forgery and supplying fake papers on a Border Collie by one of her
rescue contacts?
Has your privacy been endangered by the ABCA? A somewhat distinct problem associated with consumer privacy has to do with
the physical security of the consumer. A person who has made enemies may find himself being stalked or threatened; family
members, coworkers and neighbors of the person could become involved as innocent bystanders.
Read what the American Bar Association writes about privacy violations. There are legal protections against invading privacy
in various ways such as an intrusion by wrongfully using eavesdropping devices,publicizing private matters, publicizing in
a false light, or appropriating a person's name or likeness for commercial purposes.
The definition of Free Enterprise is defined below.
Business governed by the laws of supply and demand, not restrained by government interference, regulation
or subsidy. also called free market.
Click on the picture to see if your ability to compete in America's Free Enterprise System has been compromised
by the ABCA.
What is Slander?
Slander is a spoken defamation. Defamation or "defamation of character," is spoken or written words that
falsely and negatively reflect on a living person's reputation.
BEWARE OF THE G-FORCE.
We have hesitated putting this tidbit of information on for fear of reprisal from this "crazy bayou" breeder
and her Texas cohort. She has posted untrue and libelous comments on the Border Collie Rescue Boards and had them removed
by the moderator. She has posted libelous comments on her website and had it taken down. Her friend has posted libelous content
on puppyfind.com and had her membership revoked in March of 2006. This Louisiana breeder goes to the gates of breeders
for her stud service promising to sell the puppies of the people who own the studs. If she were not getting free stud
service, she would definitely be identifying them as a quantity breeder or puppymill. She has bragged about selling
her puppies for $600 to the people who vet check her dogs. She is in it for the money, pure and simple, and she and
and her friend are behind the letter writing campaign to the ABCA. Her friend has rescue folks buy puppies from breeders,
and those people try to find things wrong with them. Then she spreads vicious untrue rumours about them. Her son is in prison,
and the nut probably does not fall far from that tree. She recommends breeders, and then tries to discredit them. That
is her modus operandi. The Louisiana breeder has given out false information about one of our stud dogs that she
owns a female out of saying he produces blue and red puppies and is black and white. This is totally untrue and a lie
to sell her puppies. One of the studs she uses is a brother to a dog that produces hairless blue border collies that
will not work. Both of these breeders have people call us thinking we will just jump on the chance to sell them a puppy.
They ask for copies of our pedigrees and pictures of dogs. It is sooooooo obvious when they do that... What some
people will do to sell their puppies !
Click here to read an educated definition of a puppymill.
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